5/17
Continuing
with the alarm-interrupting-sleep practice. This evening did so in combination
with an attempt at the "direct method" (after awakening, sit
motionless, and meditate into sleep). No results. However, recalled a large
number of dreams (perhaps the largest ever): 9? Had one false awakening.
5/18
First
attempt with the "indirect method." Woke with the alarm, then each
natural awakening tried to exit. Don't think I really followed the steps
correctly. Hard to remember them all when one wakes up. I may have had three
natural awakenings and tried on some level to exit each time. No results. No
dreams recalled.
5/19
Second
attempt with "indirect method." Had one attempt at it this night.
Don't think I followed the steps correctly. No dreams recalled.
5/20
Intended
to try with the "indirect method" but don't think I had any natural
awakenings. Don't recall any attempts. Four dreams recalled. One false
awakening.
5/21
One
attempt with the indirect method this night. Actually partially followed the
steps properly this time. Did the first "exit" attempt then
"cycled" the exit techniques. The "wiggle a phantom limb"
seemed to perhaps have actually brought results. Seemed like a ghostly limb may
have been wiggling. But, was unable to get any farther than this. Recalled
perhaps 11? dreams this night.
~
1.
I am trying to keep in mind the three methods to provoke the OOBE amongst the
above - including the lucidity method via dreams. It is interesting that one
can be hyperconscious in the waking state but have none of this carry over into
sleep. These are different skills and the lucidity in sleep is something
entirely different.
2.
I wonder what would happen if I died at this moment. Would I lack lucidity in
the after-death state? Or would lucidity then emerge?
3.
The false awakenings are interesting. Of course, they are happening and I still
lack consciousness during them. Not sure how to cultivate dream lucidity. I
have been asking "am I dreaming?" at random intervals throughout the
day.
4.
My dreams throughout my life have always been very low in "reality,"
not much higher than the level of imagination. They have perhaps 5% the realism
of day to day sense experience. I am interested in the "deepening
method" described by Raduga. The accounts of OOBEs I read always describe
them as being hyperreal. It would be very interesting to experience this.
5.
Raduga explains even if one moves or stirs after awakening, to still try to
exit using the indirect method, and to be disciplined and cycle the exit
attempts. Will try to keep this in mind.
6.
Reflecting on the above practices, I am a little incredulous about the
eccentricity of all this. Not necessarily for me, but for humanity in general.
If training in all this is really required for "conscious dying" then
very few people can ever do so. What number of human beings would ever learn
about these things? Or practice them?
~
Valdy's
Response
Hello Alexander
The simplest way for me to get OOB is to use a suggestion as I go to sleep that I want to go OOB while I am dreaming. When you are dreaming you are already OOB so to find yourself OOB is not a big shock. A suggestion to "go OOB while I am dreaming".
My first OOB was spontaneous, it came from a huge life crisis and happened while I was awake. My body suddenly started to vibrate the way Monroe explains. To me it felt like, for example starting a small car, putting it in neutral and putting the accelerator to the floor, a sudden vibration like that but with no movement. My first OOB took about 4 hours and I presume that I broke some boundaries that now make it easier for me to get OOB. This first OOB was going OOB while I was awake. In order to get out I had to let go, and then had to let go of letting go.
Valdy
Hello Alexander
The simplest way for me to get OOB is to use a suggestion as I go to sleep that I want to go OOB while I am dreaming. When you are dreaming you are already OOB so to find yourself OOB is not a big shock. A suggestion to "go OOB while I am dreaming".
My first OOB was spontaneous, it came from a huge life crisis and happened while I was awake. My body suddenly started to vibrate the way Monroe explains. To me it felt like, for example starting a small car, putting it in neutral and putting the accelerator to the floor, a sudden vibration like that but with no movement. My first OOB took about 4 hours and I presume that I broke some boundaries that now make it easier for me to get OOB. This first OOB was going OOB while I was awake. In order to get out I had to let go, and then had to let go of letting go.
Valdy
