I was rereading a post Jhanon had
made years ago, and it got me thinking about it.
Quote from: Jhanon
We are treading very close to "sexism", but I wish to express that I am not "sexist." I have some questions for you, Alexander, that I wish to know how you see.
1) Why are there so few woman seekers of enlightenment?
2) Is it because their ticket to enlightenment is companionship with a man headed to enlightenment?
As Jhanon wrote and I agree, I do not want to venture into "sexism."
At the same time, I think it is helpful to reflect on men and women, and
whatever nature's difference is between the sexes.
It seems that in the upper stages of this "work," most of the participants are male. Why this is remains to be seen. This forum is one example, which is oddly male dominated. I have never understood why this is the case. At the same time, we also find that women, when they find achievement in this work, seem to do so in unity with their male partners.
Reflecting on this gets one thinking about the usual "game" between men and women in life. For example, a woman starts off initially attracted to a partner, then begins to challenge him or question him. The woman is often looking for a long list of ideal traits in her partner - strength, intelligence, virtue, virility, etc. The woman might then leave to find a new partner who better fits those ideals and the process repeats.
This "game" is the cause of so much human misery and conflict. At the same time, it seems to have two interesting purposes we might draw from it. First, it forces men to become self-conscious. A woman forces a man to become aware of his shortcomings and faults. If a man is self-aware, he can make spiritual progress. Second, it seems a woman's search for those ideals may in fact be a kind of quest for liberation, if it is true a woman's liberation is achieved through her relationship with a man.
It seems that in the upper stages of this "work," most of the participants are male. Why this is remains to be seen. This forum is one example, which is oddly male dominated. I have never understood why this is the case. At the same time, we also find that women, when they find achievement in this work, seem to do so in unity with their male partners.
Reflecting on this gets one thinking about the usual "game" between men and women in life. For example, a woman starts off initially attracted to a partner, then begins to challenge him or question him. The woman is often looking for a long list of ideal traits in her partner - strength, intelligence, virtue, virility, etc. The woman might then leave to find a new partner who better fits those ideals and the process repeats.
This "game" is the cause of so much human misery and conflict. At the same time, it seems to have two interesting purposes we might draw from it. First, it forces men to become self-conscious. A woman forces a man to become aware of his shortcomings and faults. If a man is self-aware, he can make spiritual progress. Second, it seems a woman's search for those ideals may in fact be a kind of quest for liberation, if it is true a woman's liberation is achieved through her relationship with a man.
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Naman's Response
To
be honest, i dont think that desire to reach enlightenment needs someone
to be dependent on other sex.. Be it man or women. However there is
one interesting fact, women physically, let me say that distinction of
men and women is purely physical beyond this plane we r just souls mainly, we
might have come as woman many times, and vice versa. So women physically
are made such that their energy is predominant in second chakra cause they r
supposed to bear child,,, highly advanced woman may even stop having
menstruation cycle. So this doesnt make it easy for women to pursue paths which
are related to higher chakras like dhyana or jnan yoga, how ever u will
find many women in bhakti yoga.. Or yoga of devotion, now devotion
can be towards god guru or even husband, to whom ur devouted they r just
tool. That second chakra is also responsible for women being so emotional
by default, mostly. Thus many of them are attracted towards
intellectual men or even spiritual(non devotional) men cause higher order
chakra are invovled i.e. 5th 6th and beyond. And by nature beings are drawn
towards what they dont have,,, thats why women dont like emotional men
usually haha rather brainy guy is preferred.. Thats the scenario for lets
say 90percent beings.. Many exception can be there.
We are seeking perfection by including what we dont have,, but thru material means it happens little by little,, and can never be totally done, opposite pole attracts each other.. To be annihalted.. When annihilation happens tremendous energy is released, like atom bomb, even physical death releases energy thus people used to sacrifice animals for ruitals cause it takes time to generate energy thru spiritual means.. When someone is enlightened and released whole time space fabric gets jitters, so much energy is released whole system elevates up.. We all are seeking annihilation of our dual existence.
We are seeking perfection by including what we dont have,, but thru material means it happens little by little,, and can never be totally done, opposite pole attracts each other.. To be annihalted.. When annihilation happens tremendous energy is released, like atom bomb, even physical death releases energy thus people used to sacrifice animals for ruitals cause it takes time to generate energy thru spiritual means.. When someone is enlightened and released whole time space fabric gets jitters, so much energy is released whole system elevates up.. We all are seeking annihilation of our dual existence.
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Female
Mystics
Hi
Naman,
Yes, I agree. It is just one idea that might help make sense of things. Certainly there are exceptions; like Teresa of Avila, Hildegard of Bingen, Evelyn Underhill, the Delphic Oracles, and Rabia. In fact, most of women's writing we have before the contemporary era are the works of female mystics!
Yes, I agree. It is just one idea that might help make sense of things. Certainly there are exceptions; like Teresa of Avila, Hildegard of Bingen, Evelyn Underhill, the Delphic Oracles, and Rabia. In fact, most of women's writing we have before the contemporary era are the works of female mystics!
