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concur with your thoughts abt this community. We shud keep it alive.
I think u missed my other two replies before the last post.. I made three diff posts shud have combined them.
Its 2:40am here, i woke up cause i was having some scary semi lucid dream. I meditated for few minutes, maybe 5 lying down while i went to sleep. I forgot to mention, as you try for oobe,, i believe its must that while u meditate u shud be sitting up and then when u have completed ur meditation then only lie down and goto sleep.
If i wud have done more meditation, i wud have had more lucid dream perhaps wud have woken up in sleep paralysis. Which im not doing now a days.
I also experienced that usually if u have eaten just before bed and try for oobe n sleep u usually end up having scary lower level astral experience
I think u missed my other two replies before the last post.. I made three diff posts shud have combined them.
Its 2:40am here, i woke up cause i was having some scary semi lucid dream. I meditated for few minutes, maybe 5 lying down while i went to sleep. I forgot to mention, as you try for oobe,, i believe its must that while u meditate u shud be sitting up and then when u have completed ur meditation then only lie down and goto sleep.
If i wud have done more meditation, i wud have had more lucid dream perhaps wud have woken up in sleep paralysis. Which im not doing now a days.
I also experienced that usually if u have eaten just before bed and try for oobe n sleep u usually end up having scary lower level astral experience
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on Self-Knowledge
Hi
Naman,
Yes, I read them. I usually use the "Recent Post" button to do my readings on the forum so I don't miss anything.
I wanted to also agree with your interesting point about "self-knowledge" being a key to the spiritual life. That was the path I followed before I began the contemplative life and I agree. The two also merge into one another as the path proceeds.
One thing that left an impression on me as a young student of philosophy was reading about Socrates, and of the adage of the oracle of Delphi Socrates lived by which was to "know thyself."
I feel the average person - especially in today's complex world - has a thousand contradictory "faces" or roles they play in a day, and self-knowledge is all about getting to know each of these and reconciling them - coming to a new, "true" self that lies behind all these falsehoods.
I think that then blends with the original message of Christianity, which Jesus and John the Baptist taught as "metanoia," literally a thinking over of oneself and the past.
This then segues to the next part of the inner journey, which involves dealing with the dysfunctions innate to human psychology. Plato had the "three parts of the psyche" he taught and explained how in a "just soul" reason with the help of anger rules over the passions. He then contrasted the "just soul" with each of the "dysfunctional" souls for example when passion rules the soul, or when anger does.
You can then go from here to the chakras. I usually like the simple model of sex-heart-crown. Once the psychological "faculties" are put in order that then "opens up" the flow of energy (as oriental teaching would say) and that leads to spiritual progress.
So, we find that we have all these different movements throughout history, and they are all basically pointing to the same process - that "since the beginning of the human race, some have followed a noble path to a hidden city. In the city is liberation."
Yes, I read them. I usually use the "Recent Post" button to do my readings on the forum so I don't miss anything.
I wanted to also agree with your interesting point about "self-knowledge" being a key to the spiritual life. That was the path I followed before I began the contemplative life and I agree. The two also merge into one another as the path proceeds.
One thing that left an impression on me as a young student of philosophy was reading about Socrates, and of the adage of the oracle of Delphi Socrates lived by which was to "know thyself."
I feel the average person - especially in today's complex world - has a thousand contradictory "faces" or roles they play in a day, and self-knowledge is all about getting to know each of these and reconciling them - coming to a new, "true" self that lies behind all these falsehoods.
I think that then blends with the original message of Christianity, which Jesus and John the Baptist taught as "metanoia," literally a thinking over of oneself and the past.
This then segues to the next part of the inner journey, which involves dealing with the dysfunctions innate to human psychology. Plato had the "three parts of the psyche" he taught and explained how in a "just soul" reason with the help of anger rules over the passions. He then contrasted the "just soul" with each of the "dysfunctional" souls for example when passion rules the soul, or when anger does.
You can then go from here to the chakras. I usually like the simple model of sex-heart-crown. Once the psychological "faculties" are put in order that then "opens up" the flow of energy (as oriental teaching would say) and that leads to spiritual progress.
So, we find that we have all these different movements throughout history, and they are all basically pointing to the same process - that "since the beginning of the human race, some have followed a noble path to a hidden city. In the city is liberation."
